Cheat sheets/notes from my Saturn presentation- 1st 2 pages.
Here they are, for those not in attendance/who didn't get a printout. I'm printing one 2-sided page per entry just so it's not a monster post from hell.
Saturn Can Bite Me!
Characteristics, examples, and tips for dealing with
Saturn’s connection to your personal planets.
Notable quotes from astrologers on the subject:
- “Saturn always inclines toward the development of strength through isolation.”
--Liz Greene
- “I don’t know any way of working with Saturn aspects except for the Saturn person, on one hand, to step back and get more detached about their behavior and their fears—it’s necessary for them to face their own fears, instead of trying to project their fears or insecurities onto the other person.” –Stephen Arroyo
- “Aries: You’ll never be brave enough. You’ll fail because you are afraid.
Cancer: You are not loveable enough. Mommy has every right to dislike you.
Leo: You can’t lead anything or anyone. You are wrong to believe that you could.
Capricorn: Daddy always said you’d never amount to anything. You are afraid he is right.” –Beth Turnage.
- “It may be that the path of developing a fully conscious relationship is as valid a spiritual discipline as the path of meditation or yoga—and that, as it is considerably more difficult, its rewards may be proportionally greater in terms of being able to overcome at least the sense of separateness…Perhaps those who are “Saturn-prone” in their relationships sense this, and this is the best path for them.” –Liz Greene
- “It’s true if someone has their Saturn in aspect to one of your planets (particularly the personal planets: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars), they will have some authority over you. They may be older, more experienced, more educated or whatever form this takes but you can’t tell from the chart how they might express this “advantage.” Will they be a mentor, an oppressor or a combination of those?” –Elsa Panizzon.
General suggestions for handling Saturn that apply to everybody:
- Therapy. Yes, that means you.
- Don’t count on others to solve your emotional problems—it is up to you to do it.
- Don’t listen to what everyone else says and does to figure out what you should be saying and doing. You need to find your own way.
- The “midpoint method:” Find the midpoint between Saturn and the personal planet(s) bugging you, and note its sign and house. Base your solution on what that empty house indicates.
- The “Jupiter method:” Look for where your Jupiter is in your chart by sign and house, and use the traits there to compensate. (More on this below for each one.)
- “Study the natal charts of famous people who have aspects similar to yours. If you have access to a database like AstroDataBank, you can sort by aspects, and find, for example, many famous people who have (or had) Venus in hard aspect to Saturn. Read their biographies, indentify this archetypal pattern and see how they dealt with it. (I will admit that I have not practiced what I preach here, but I think it can open up possibilities for you.”)” –Jeffrey Kishner. Cafeastrology.com also lists celebrities with natal aspects (see online bibliography for the links).