Cheat sheets/notes from my Saturn presentation- Moon-Saturn
Moon-Saturn
“I’m a failure as a woman. My men expect so much of me, because of the image they’ve made of me and that I’ve made of myself, as a sex symbol. Men expect so much, and I can’t live up to it.” –Marilyn Monroe.
You may have these feelings if you have:
- Any aspects in your chart that connect the Moon and Saturn (conjunct, sextile, trine, square, opposition, etc.)
- Capricorn emphasis in your chart
- Saturn in Cancer
- Saturn in your fourth or tenth house.
Positive traits of Moon-Saturn connections:
- Loyal.
- Responsible.
- Self-sufficient.
- Practical.
- Trustworthy
- Able to keep calm when they need to
Negative traits of Moon-Saturn connections:
- Difficult childhood- parents, especially mother, may have been disapproving/let you down in some way. Love was conditional, you were forced to start suppressing your emotions very early on. Fear of expressing who you are, expression in general.
- Hard childhood- death, illness, poverty, separation may have happened.
- Difficulties in relating to women in general- especially “mommy issues.”
- Women in particular may have femininity/nurturing issues- either overcompensate or avoid anything feminine. Also, may either want no kids or tons of kids to avoid/make up for their own childhood.
- Emphasis on duty, especially taking care of others over yourself.
- Are likely to follow in family footsteps (good or bad), possibly end up with partners who are like your parents. May be controlled by your parents.
- Fear of criticism/being wrong/being inadequate- may be afraid to try new things.
- Attracted to relationships with hardships/burdens to them.
- Feel like you have to get your emotions satisfied through an unsatisfying family.
Poster children for Moon-Saturn:
- Marilyn Monroe (Saturn square Moon and trine Mars)
- Prince Charles (Saturn trine Moon)
- Madonna (Saturn square Moon)
- Martha Stewart (Saturn quincunx Moon)
Synastry example: Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton (his Saturn conjunct her Moon)
Qualities of Moon/Saturn synastry:
- Responsibility is implied in this relationship, it’ll be serious. Parent-child relationship implied again. Feeling their way towards true emotional intimacy, but it’ll be a challenge. Tests and trials are going to be part of the relationship, and sometimes it might be “off and on” out of frustration.
- The relationship brings out their individual needs for safety and security. The Moon person is attracted to Saturn’s dependability, Saturn envies how the Moon can express emotions, but doesn’t really get how to do it on their own.
- Moon person may feel that they need to censor their self-expression around Saturn, feel like they always have to come off as “adult” because Saturn may not approve, “get it”, or be able to handle their emotions. Saturn doesn’t get the “frivolous” expressions of neediness/dependency that the Moon might exhibit. Moon needs to try to NOT censor so much so that they get to the point of emotional isolation/frustration.
- Saturn needs to face fears and consciously not keep forcing the Moon to keep all emotions inside, and the Moon person needs to realize that sometimes Saturn has a point and is just not being harsh in order to be harsh. Trust with regards to sharing feelings needs to be built.
Suggested Saturnian solutions to this problem:
- Try to examine and understand the relationship with your mother, if possible. Work on healing it if possible. At the very least, see what went wrong and what you want to do differently to change it.
- Take care of your own emotional needs. You have to create what you are missing for yourself. Stop counting on others to give you what you need. You will need to develop your own inner strength and make your own security, because your family won’t provide it for you. Your goal is true emotional independence.
- You may have/need to burn bridges with your family if they are particularly toxic in order to grow and mature. They are not guaranteed security and love for you, and you can’t assume they will give it to you because you are related.
- Your goal is to feel safe enough to at least drop some of your defenses with others, especially in relationships.
- Women in particular need to figure out your femininity for yourself, NOT by going off of female stereotypes. Figure out what aspects of femininity you are okay with and want to practice, and try not to judge yourself so hard for not checking off every box on the “What Women Stereotypically Do” list.
- The Jupiter solution (Jupiter in Cancer/4th): Make others feel included and supported. Devote yourself to others and tend to their needs.
