Past relationship synastry
Okay, someone suggested to me that I check exes's horoscopes and see what was good and what went wrong.
I wasn't too thrilled with this idea (as has been previously mentioned), but upon further reflection, there was kind of a good point to that.
So, I made some guesses, considering I couldn't remember the birthplace and never knew the birth time of one guy, and another one I had to make an approximate guess at his birth time...you get the drift. But even if you rule out the whole ascendants/house placement thing, you can still figure things out by most planets.
So: here's what was good, and what went wrong. All unlinked quotes come from astro.com:
The Workaholic Ex is apparently quite Capricorn- no wonder I've been turned off by the idea of dating Caps since. He most likely has a T-square of his own (Sun/Venus, Moon, Pluto). He's a few months older than me, so his Saturn sets off all of my squares. Our nodes are a few degrees apart in the same houses and his Neptune (same as mine) opposes my vertex. So I suppose there was some karma going on there.
No Mars/Venus contacts in synastry, but in the (halfassed) composite, Venus trines Mars. Hm. I'm not sure what to make of this- this was kind of the least hormonal relationship I ever had, so the synastry seemed to trump there. Our Venuses trined, though.
Saturn composite aspects: sextile Jupiter, trine Mercury. Nothing real bad there.
Bad composite aspects: Sun square Neptune, Venus square Neptune, Moon square Uranus.
Yeah, "major let-down" certainly describes the ending.Be extremely careful with a relationship that has the square of Sun and Neptune in the composite chart. This aspect implies that the relationship tends to be unrealistic and impractical. In particular there is a danger that one of you will deceive the other, which could result in disappointment and disillusionment when this is revealed. No matter how beautiful the relationship seems at the beginning, there is a real possibility that it will end with a major let-down.
The square of composite Venus and Neptune requires that the two of you be quite wary about the true nature of this relationship. If you are not careful and unless you evaluate yourselves thoroughly, you could experience great disappointment. With this particular Venus-Neptune aspect, you may believe that you have met the ideal of your life, especially in a romantic sense. The love of your life is here!
Neptune is the planet both of illusion and the ideal, and under its influence you are likely to find it very difficult to tell which is which. You must ascertain whether each of you is for real; that is, are you relating to each other or to some idealized fantasy? Is the spiritual element that you see in each other and in your relationship real or not?
Actually, this one really sums it up for me. I literally thought he was the love of my life and the ideal, though I doubt at this point he felt the same way! No wonder I felt so stupid afterwards.
With the square of composite Moon and Uranus, this relationship is not likely to be a stable, enduring, long-term one, at least as far as love is concerned. This is an aspect of emotional change and instability. A love affair with this aspect may flare up suddenly and then cool off with equal suddenness.
Yeah, it was also totally off-and-on in that manner.
Next, we have the Older Ex, who I was dating when I was young and dumb and he was going through his Saturn Return. Gee, no wonder there were issues there, eh?
In synastry: His Saturn was conjunct my Sun and Chiron and descendant, and opposed my ascendant. OUCH. That ain't pretty. That's big squashing aspects right there, not to mention that he got sick of me. Our suns squared each other.
As for Mars/Venus, my Mars and his Venus were opposite, and his Mars and my Venus were conjunct. That's a weird combination right there- ideal and unideal at once.
My moon conjuncted his Neptune, my Venus trined his Pluto, his Uranus hit my North Node.
The composite's where it's really nasty. Sun square Saturn, Venus square Saturn, Saturn square Pluto. Moon trine Saturn, Mercury trine Saturn, Saturn trine Uranus, and Jupiter sextile Saturn aren't enough to trump those problem aspects, I suspect.
Composite Sun square composite Saturn is likely to present some problems. It may be that you get in each other's way and then are not flexible enough to let the other do what he or she wants. One of you is very likely to become a repressive influence upon the other, constantly criticizing and condemning.
It would be good if creative changes could occur spontaneously in each of you that would make your relationship more stable and pleasant, but you should not make this a condition of the relationship. You must be able to accept each other here and now, although this aspect makes it difficult to do that.
Try to avoid criticizing each other excessively, and do allow more freedom of self- expression. If you really cannot accept each other's annoying characteristics, it is probably best to get out of the relationship.
Ouuuuuch.Venus square Saturn can be a most troubleseome aspect in a composite chart, depending to a great extent on what you expect of the relationship. It can prevent a love relationship that is otherwise good from ever being physically consummated. Things seem to get in the way - either circumstances are not favorable or one of you blows hot while the other blows cold. In a relationship with more problems, this aspect may be the final indication that it cannot be satisfactory from any point of view.
The square of composite Saturn and Pluto creates difficulties. One of you will feel that you are struggling in chains forged by the other, that the relationship is restrictive, and that your natural growth is being inhibited. It is most likely that each of you will affect the other this way at different times.
The energies of the aspect may not be experienced directly, however. The Saturn-Pluto combination seems to have the effect of creating a shortage or lack of something that seems essential, so the two of you will not always have what you want, whether it is material comfort or psychological support.
Please realize, however, that the dynamics of your relationship is the problem, not the other person. In other words, both of you are contributing to the situation.
Such a relationship can face quite unpleasant circumstances, most commonly in the form of increasing emotional coldness and remoteness between you. From there you may get to the point of resisting each other strongly and wanting to break free at all costs. If you want to make it work, you must recognize how you have created this situation.
There's also Venus opposed to Pluto and moon conjunct Uranus.
With the opposition of Venus and Pluto in the composite chart you will have to be very careful. Somehow this relationship dredges up all kinds of deeply buried emotions that you may not really want to cope with. At its best, this power can cause you both to become new and more authentic people than you have been. But at its worst you will just play around with each other's feelings and what comes of playing around will make both of you feel quite bad about yourselves.
I'd say the Moon conjunct Uranus sums this one up best, as it was an unusual relationship and he was an unusual fellow on top of that.The conjunction of composite Moon and Uranus is bound to create a certain amount of excitement; but it will not provide stability. If the relationship ceases to be stimulating, it may very well come to an end Uranus challenges your preconceptions and drives you out of your established ruts. This relationship may exist for the same purpose.
On the other hand, it is possible that this conjunction signifies something unusual or atypical about the relationship itself.
If the relationship itself is unusual, it may be more stable than a more ordinary partnership. In a love relationship, this aspect demands that you give each other more than the usual amount of freedom.
This is likely to be an unusual relationship. Accept it as such and allow it to teach you something new about life.
Venus sextiles Mars in the composite. And here's Venus trine Neptune. interesting how there's two Venus/Neptune composite aspects so far. No wonder I was so freaking deluded in these relationships.
And then there's the Ex-Fiance. I was gobsmacked to see that he's got a Grand Fire Trine going on, considering that he was the ex who (a) had the worst luck, and (b) never got anywhere with anything. I guess this goes along with the Rushman book saying that some people with Grand Trines never get anywhere without motivation.The trine of composite Venus and Neptune indicates a highly idealized relationship. If this a love affair, it is a very romantic one; if it is a friendship, you probably idealize each other's attributes. This relationship may also stimulate great creativity in one of you, enabling you to write poetry or music.
Venus and Neptune together mean the beautiful illusion. In a trine, however, the word "ideal" might be more appropriate than "illusion." Even so, you must try to stay in touch with the everyday world. Like many other configurations of Neptune, this aspect is often characterized by a platonic relationship. If there is physical sex, it is highly idealized.
We didn't have any Saturn aspects going on at all in synastry, and in the composite Saturn is unaspected- no wonder it didn't end up going down the aisle. (Though I can't help but wonder why my shorter relationships had Saturn aspects and this one, my longest, didn't. Hm.) But he has Sun conjunct Uranus, which was conjunct my Uranus, and I gather that doesn't help with stability (even if it's great for love at first sight). Oh, and his Venus is conjunct the sun and Uranus. That's pretty wacky. We don't have any Mars/Venus aspects in synastry, which is odd.
Then there's the composite. And speaking of repeating themes in relationships: there's Venus square Uranus, Venus trine Neptune, and Venus sextile Pluto! Plus sun trine Pluto, which seems to translate into "whoopee sex!"
Other aspects:
Sun Opposition Venus: This is one of the strongest indications of a love relationship between two people, even in a friendship. It does not primarily indicate a sexual relationship; instead it signifies love, pure and simple. The attraction indicated by this aspect is so powerful that it can bring together people who are incompatible by ordinary criteria.
If the relationship is laden with conflicts, even a strong feeling of love between you may turn to hatred. In most cases, however, this will be a very fine personal relationship.
I guess in a way that summed it up. Brought together despite some major incompatibilities in lifestyle and money management...alas, the "whoopee" aspects and the illusions got squashed by that.
Traditional expectations...yeah, I guess that was it. He had more traditional expectations than I did for the relationship, and yet he couldn't actually fulfill the ones he wanted to do. Plus, I didn't actually want to do them. And yet I expected him to act in certain ways that just didn't pan out either.Sun square Uranus in the composite chart means that this relationship will be the source of many surprises for you, some of which will be quite difficult to deal with.
Most important is the problem of instability. Clearly this is not a relationship in which either of you can be possessive; you must give each other maximum freedom. And if this results in one of you drifting away to someone else, then that is the way it must be. This aspect is not especially good for any relationship, such as marriage, that involves traditional expectations. Marriage is possible, but it would require much more flexibility than most people have.
So... I guess what I need to "watch out for" are Venus/Neptune aspects, Uranus aspects, ugly Saturn squares in the composite chart, a total lack of Saturn aspects period, Saturn conjunct Sun.
I swear, the anonymous celebrity synastry/composite is looking better and better compared to the exes.