9 posts tagged “juno”

Really interesting analysis. Moral of the story: do not date Bob Dylan.

In Dylan’s chart (24 May 1941  9:05 PM Duluth MN USA) his Juno (28 Leo 49) fills in a T-square to his Gemini Sun/ Sagittarius Earth axis (he may feel that empowered women, as well as his own anima, clash with his Soul and Material Direction); Juno also squares Pallas (which is conjunct Earth, and so involved in the T-square) and this suggests that for him the concept of wisdom is at odds with the idea of partnership, as if he cannot accept that a partner can be wise! Juno squares the Jupiter/ Uranus conjunction (again, a threat, this time to the freedom and individuality); and Juno quincunxes the South Node (in this case, a ‘never goin’ there with a woman again!’ position). All these perceptions are really cemented in place, as Juno is conjunct Vesta, signifying that his internal ideas about partnership/ the mate are sacred, and will always trump reality. If you know Dylan and his work, you know his persona is notoriously hard to pin down, a ramblin’ man in more ways than one, and his Juno in Leo suggests he wants a woman/ partner who ’shines’ with strength and purpose (the Sun)–a tough thing for a woman to fulfill, when his Juno aspects insist that she will, in the end, be fallible and unreliable. Dylan plants the seeds of the end of the relationship before it even begins, in an inability to trust, or accept the wisdom of, a partner.

The differences, though, tell the story: Joan’s Juno opposes Bob’s Pisces Mars, telling us her state of empowerment is directly at odds with who he is as a man; and his Juno trines her Venus, suggesting that who she is as a woman is in keeping with his idea of an appropriate mate/ partner. However, when you’ve got both Junos square her Moon/ Mars opposition, you’ve got not only her internal discord but his interaction creating a similar dynamic, adding the idea that anything he views as empowered behavior will be at odds with her emotional and assertive/ ego nature, as well as being in disagreement with her vision of the ‘ideal man.’ As well, with her Juno opposed his Mars, every time she exerts her own empowerment he would likely feel wounded as a man, especially so with Mars in Pisces, as this Mars would likely see itself as all lovey-dovey and peace, man, and her Juno would be at the very least demanding accountability, and perhaps bringing criticism into the mix.
The two most telling contacts are probably his Juno square her Moon–what woman can pair with a man whose anima would continually be challenging her emotional viewpoint?–and Dylan’s own Juno, as well as Joan’s, square his Jupiter/ Uranus conjunction; with this aspect he might as well wear a sign that says, ‘Women will take your freedom and tie you down!’ So, despite his Sun conjunct her Moon, a classic mating indicator, along with his Venus (his idea of the ‘ideal woman’) in Gemini in wide conjunction with her Moon, Juno tells us that there are too many upsets inherent in her empowerment, both internal and external ones, and too many beliefs on his part that a strong woman will somehow restrict him, to let these two remain in intimate relationship for long.

The Aquarius one was conjunct my Juno,  the Leo one today(ish?) is conjunct my dreaded Saturn.

So far, nothing Juno/home related has gone on, I am still hardly home anyway. And I was about to go, "eh, nothing's gonna happen on the other one either."

Oh. Wait. Don't I have that conference this weekend? Talking about Saturn?

*faceplant*

brought to you by Hillary.

Notice that her Sun is in the sign Scorpio. Notice that the Moon’s south node is also in Scorpio. Remember, when you see the Sun near one of the Moon’s nodes, that means there’s an eclipse or two in the vicinity. The impression I get from reading her natal chart is that this is not the person she was when she was born. She has, in her life, gone through a series of metamorphs that have changed her on an essential level from one shift to the next — but at the same time, she is able to maintain the image of someone who is consistently always herself.

The frightening thing is you never know who is behind that facade — and I gather that she doesn’t know either. The Pisces Moon is the most compelling astrological archetype I can think of for not being sure who one is. Indeed, it changes so often, and so unpredictably, that it would be hard to keep track of; but, if there are strong aspects, it’s possible to learn. But Hillary’s Moon makes only one aspect: to Juno. Her husband. Billy boy. And though Hillary is allegedly a kind of feminist icon (not!), let me say this somewhat politically incorrect thing: she would be nobody without him. He is the mission, the purpose, the idea. She is already clinging to the edge of reality, even with him there. But there is no question that she needs him to define her purpose and give her a solid reference point in the universe.

She has the image of stability, of stasis, but in truth she is the Human Earthquake.

How would Junos in Aquarius and Sagittarius work in a relationship?

But on the surface, your Juno in Aquarius will desire individuality and independence within the partnership, and a partner who is quirky, unique, even a little...um...strange? will work okay with you. This placement even supports long distance relationships. If your mate is Sun, Moon, or Asc Aquarius...you're on it, doggone it...

Juno in Sag supports a partner who's from foreign countries, who likes long trips, higher education, religious practices (stuff associated with the Sag sign...) If you're a Sag sun, Asc, or Moon...looks good.

Juno in Aquarius - enjoys experimenting with unusual or non-traditional choices in relationships, and demands an independent role in the outside community. Partners may share an interest in humanitarian or social causes. Under stress, this placement leads to unreliable or eccentric behavior, or cool disdain for the partner. Examples: Victoria Beckham, Sonny Bono, Katie Couric, Elizabeth Hurley, Robert Downey jr., Sarah Jessica-Parker, Christopher Reeve, J.K. Rowling, Brooke Shields.

Juno in the Fourth:

You need a comfortable and secure relationship of mutual nurturing and emotional support. This is the foundation stone for all your other activities and pursuits. The most important relationships in your life will be with those you share your home with, or close family.

Juno in Aquarius:

You require a relationship that honors your need for personal freedom and individuality. You may experiment with unconventional forms of relating, such as open marriage or role reversals. Or you may choose to remain unattached, making friendship the basis for your close relationships, even if they include a sexual dimension.

Juno in Aquarius: 
Your mate will tend to be freedom oriented, progressive, friendly rather than passionate, insecure in personal and romantic expressions and concerned with ideals and progress. Likewise you tend to react with spontaneity and impulsiveness within your committed relationships and are distressed at the thought of losing personal independence and freedom. You need a friend, a comrade and someone who can at least understand your need for constant new ideas, mental challenges and altruistic goals. Equality is an important word to you and is an area that will capture your focus and your attention as you learn to adjust to working together towards shared causes. Your relationships will tend to be trend setters and unique in some obvious way setting them apart from the traditional forms of commitments.

The importance of it.

You're supposed to look at Venus and Mars to determine the type of person you want and are attracted to, but you should also include Juno to find out the type of person you need.
Specimen A has Venus and Libra in the First house. This is a person looking for love and validation. She is all about the long term relationship, but she probably isn't very lucky when it comes to finding it. Why? Her Mars is in Sagittarius in the Third house. She's going after really flaky guys who probably give her the run around and not the attention and commitment she deserves. Her Juno is in Virgo in the 11th House. What she needs is some caring, social, practical, and hardworking. She should be with someone she can respect and others do, too. He needs to be intellectually stimulating and very similar in personality to herself (her Sun is in Virgo).
Specimen B has Venus and Juno in the same house (10th) but in different signs (Taurus and Aries, respectively). He both needs and wants someone very businesslike and methodical, ambitious and determined, and kind of dark and moody. He goes for someone of a more romantic and stubborn nature, but he needs someone who is more fun and crazy. This sounds ridiculous because I know the guy, and he should really be with someone very feminine and passive, but his chart clearly says what he needs is excitement, someone who will keep him on his toes. I guess what we need isn't always what we think is good for us. Perhaps he needs a girl who can put him in his place really.
Specimen C has her Sun and Juno in the same sign and house. She needs to be with herself. Her Mars in Scorpio in the First House, so more than likely she will go for what she wants rather than what she needs, and what she wants is someone sexual and selfish.

It's good to be aware of your Juno sign, especially if you keep going after the wrong person. Find out what it is you need, not what you want, and go after that.

Mainly because I can't stand to read any more doom n' gloom on the astrology sites either.

So, found some other stuff to mention.

Even though I am sick of the political stuff too, I did think the synastry of the McCains was interesting.

Because of their 18-year age difference, they both have the North Node in Capricorn, South Node in Cancer. The synastry aspects to the lunar nodes show a deep connection, with her Venus-Jupiter in Gemini forming an out-of-sign conjunction with his South Node in Cancer. This aspect may show how her wealth allows them to live comfortably with several homes around the country. Her Mars conjoins his North Node in Capricorn, providing active support for his need to serve his country and its traditions.

Chiron is another active element in their synastry, with her Venus conjunct his Chiron in Gemini and his Moon conjunct her Chiron in Capricorn. The question here is whether these two sympathetic personal planets have provided a comfort level allowing for the healing of old wounds. Chiron often shows us where we feel most insecure, and John has a square between natal Chiron and Venus, reflecting doubts about being loveable. Cindy’s Chiron is closely trine her Sun, suggesting that she experienced positive reinforcement of her self-esteem growing up, thus making it likely she has been able to help John sort through his issues in this area.

They both have Juno in Leo, with Cindy’s Pluto in Leo closely conjoining them. Their idea of an ideal marriage and household is thus very similar, and this particular aspect has no doubt stood them in good stead with all the entertaining in support of John’s political career over the years. With Pluto adding his two cents, discussions about jealously and possessive behaviors had to have played a role behind the scenes.

I always find it interesting when there are node connections, especially since in this case it's mutual and they both have a connection to the nodes of the other.

A synastry question, post-relationship: "Considering that Venus, Mars and the Moon are involved in our conjunctions, as well as the signs Libra and Scorpio, all related to relationships, I wonder about the nature of the connection between Dan and I. What happens to the connections in the charts now that we are no longer in a relationship? Also, how is it possible for us to have such strong astrological connections but for us to not have sustained a relationship? I don’t think we will get back together but it is a remote possibility. I cannot put to rest that we have these astrological connections and yet we don’t have a connection through being in relationship."

I've always wondered about that too.

Speaking to the first side of this discussion — a conventional theory on chart comparison — when you’re looking for solid synastry, you want contact between the Sun, the Moon and the angles if possible. By angles, I mean the ascendant and/or the descendant. These are the three things we tend to feel the most, and which — for good or ill — suggest that we have karma to explore, create or resolve with the person. As a fourth possible thing to search, the lunar nodes can indicate a significant spiritual connection. And that, basically, is what you’re looking for.

Conjunctions count for the most. Carl Jung, who was an astrologer as well as a psychiatrist, cast the chart of every client he worked with. He discovered the phenomenon of Sun/Moon/ascendant in the charts of married people. Your Sun conjunct someone’s Moon (even using a fairly wide orb) speaks of a connection that could develop. Someone’s Sun conjunct the other person’s ascendant or descendant would be viable as well, and reveal some points of harmony between the two people, since again, we really feel that Sun, Moon and rising sign. But you have to watch for the exceptions as much as you do the rules.

Usually, I find synastry to be better at figuring out why a relationship didn’t work out than predicting whether one will. Generally what happens is that there will be a lot of connections that look good, but then for example there may be a harsh connection between someone’s Mars and the other person’s Moon. This might trigger the other person, giving an image of them feeling insecure or unstable, or something like that.

As with any chart review, you’re going to find things that seem harmonious and argue for a productive experience, and things that are not so harmonious and argue for a more challenging connection. You need to weigh and balance the factors — and reality check in the relationship.

But here is the thing. We who are curious about relationships need to reinvent them. We need to make room for the karma piece, which needs a safe forum to work out. We need to make room for the monogamous piece, that offers total devotion. We need to embrace the slut who says yes because that’s what she wants. And we need to embrace that virginal whore — the masturbator and selflover, whether she be the one abandoned or the one indulging existence.

Hidden Faces of the Asteroid Goddesses: I like this bit on Juno in particular.

Juno is after heirogamos, or sacred marriage. Her placement shows more specifically than Venus' does how one expresses the desire to be a significant other, no matter what the sexual orientation. A person with Juno in Capricorn would prefer a relatively conventional marriage; Juno in Scorpio would lead a person to place more importance on the sexual bond than on the legal aspect of union. Actual engagements and weddings and moving-in-togethers and divorces often correspond to Juno transits. Zip Dobyns finds that synastric connections of Juno make her clients think of marriage even when nothing else in the comparison would seem to indicate it. 

Juno is the one among the four asteroid goddesses who represented steadfast loyalty to relationship-for-the-sake-of-relationship. It is she who offers the teaching for modern spouses trying to find ways to live as a unit without losing themselves in co-dependency. Like all the lunar deities, Juno had three facets: in this case, the maiden, the bride and the widow, which described the cyclical state of a committed union. In the myths, we see Juno and Jupiter separating for some reason, usually an infidelity of his; she goes into solitude or a wandering phase, then she bathes herself in the sacred spring, and goes right back into the relationship. This asteroid is about the natural rhythm there is in uniting with and separation from and reuniting with a mate. 

It is possible to read Juno as being merely about bridal showers and couples counseling. But looking beneath this level, we find a more subtle perspective on committed partnership. 

To understand the archaic inner face of Juno it may be necessary to dispense altogether with the modern term "wife", and resurrect the ancient notion of a consort. Giving this asteroid both Scorpio and Libra rulership, George posits that Juno represents the concept of a union of intimate equals: the craving to fully merge with another human being in order to find the perfect balancing of masculine and feminine energies. On a secular level, this could be seen as the mutual respect and support a happily married couple would have for one another's work, emotional well-being and creative projects, as well as their commitment to mutual pleasure in bed. On a spiritual level it could be seen as committed lovers in meditation, exploring the psychic sharing and the raising of the kundalini life-force that transpires in conscious sex, as practiced in Eastern tantric traditions. Ultimately, Juno's goal is not the marriage itself but the ego transcendence the marriage can offer. Though pleasure may be part of it, this kind of coupling has more to do with religious ecstasy. The union becomes a means to get beyond the separateness of the self by joining forces with another at the deepest levels--the original meaning of the heirogamos --leading to healing and spiritual consummation.

There’s no way around it: astrology is based on the premise that each of us has a pre-incarnate soul identity that chooses this incarnation, of which our natal chart is the script. Saturn is the code within that script which specifies the exact type of challenges to be encountered, so as to induce a very particular type of growth (everyone gets challenges, and growth, but not the same kind). From this perspective, each of us does indeed choose the hurdles we will face, as surely as if we’d signed up for them in a race. And like the reneging runner, we forget we chose them.

But if one opts to pursue astrology, the belief that we did “sign up” for Saturn’s (and all the other planets’) lessons is – not to put too fine a point on it – part of the program. It is not that astrologers seek to cajole clients into a leap of faith they don’t want to make; it is simply that astrology wouldn’t work if it weren’t so. And what sense does it make to waste your time on a philosophy whose most basic axiom you don’t believe in?

I apparently have Juno (the "marriage asteroid") in Aquarius/fourth house. This sounds possibly even worse than having a Sagittarius moon and Taurean partner-wanting crappity everywhere else. Contradictory to the max.

No wonder I'm confused.

"Juno in Aquarius is also good for some unique and unusual arrangements in the relationship realm. Juno loves being in love and being someone's partner, but she has some rather strict demands in the process. It's important to her that she be treated fairly and with respect, recognized as an equal partner. With Aquarius, it also means she wants a wide latitude to do what she wants and go where she wants to go. The usual or stereotypical ways for couples to behave mean little during this placement, since Aquarius is prone to be iconoclastic in many ways. She doesn't care for any strings that tie her down or hold her back, because her freedom is important to her right now. Give your partner as much room as you can and be willing to make new compromises on the practical arrangements. This need for freedom may be short-lived or it may be more long lasting, but freedom plus the certainty that you are still loved and accepted is a very enticing combination just now. Just remember that relationships are a two way street. If you're feeling confined or held back by your partner, maybe you need to say something. The nice thing about Aquarius is that the emotions are secondary, so problem areas seem less volatile these days. It's easier to change the "rules of the game" with your partner when the little things aren't blown out of proportion. Just keep your heart open -- there's such a thing as too much distance."

"Juno in Aquarius persons require the freedom to be an individual and have a life apart from the relationship. These individuals need to have the opportunity to experiment with new relationship forms such as open marriage or role reversals. When the Juno in Aquarius partners are denied their freedom, they may engage in non-committal, unreliable, or erratic behavior.
Juno in the fourth house represents the need for a secure relationship as the foundation for the rest of life's activities. This can be an idealized version of 'mate as nurturer' - one who provides (or needs providing for) home, food, comfort, and support. The most important relationship interactions will occur in the area of one's personal, private domain or with the family."

"Juno in Aquarius: 
Your mate will tend to be freedom oriented, progressive, friendly rather than passionate, insecure in personal and romantic expressions and concerned with ideals and progress. Likewise you tend to react with spontaneity and impulsiveness within your committed relationships and are distressed at the thought of losing personal independence and freedom. You need a friend, a comrade and someone who can at least understand your need for constant new ideas, mental challenges and altruistic goals. Equality is an important word to you and is an area that will capture your focus and your attention as you learn to adjust to working together towards shared causes. Your relationships will tend to be trend setters and unique in some obvious way setting them apart from the traditional forms of commitments."

"Juno in Aquarius: You need a partner that's - well - different. They may be a genius, eccentric, or just plain insane (maybe all of the above). It may be the partnership that is different. Aquarius is a sign that is fanatic about independence and having enough space. A bi-costal marriage where the two people spend a good deal of time apart is a good situation for the Pallas in Aquarius individual.
Juno in the 4th House: This person can be married to their home. Juno in the 4th house can also indicate a need for a partner who is attached to the domestic environment. Another possibility is that you become more of a domestic type after marriage."

"Juno in Aquarius: Your mate will tend to be freedom oriented, progressive, friendly rather than passionate, insecure in personal and romantic expressions and concerned with ideals and progress. Likewise you tend to react with spontaneity and impulsiveness within your committed relationships and are distressed at the thought of losing personal independence and freedom. You need a friend, a comrade and someone who can at least understand your need for constant new ideas, mental challenges and altruistic goals. Equality is an important word to you and is an area that will capture your focus and your attention as you learn to adjust to working together towards shared causes. Your relationships will tend to be trend setters and unique in some obvious way setting them apart from the traditional forms of commitments."

"Juno in Aquarius restricts legal relationships. In marriage, these natives do not want true equality, preferring either to adore their mates or to demand subservience from them. This position structures humanitarian projects and ideas. While seeking truly free and outspoken mates, they may have problems with such unusual people."

"Juno in the fourth house wawts traditional relationship roles observed in his / her homes. These people will try to force their positions on their families by emotional methods. Legal spouses are important for their emotional stability. They want husbands or wives to stand by them regardless of personal feelings. One important consideration is how their mates fit into their family homes. In other words, parental approval of marriage is important."

"Juno in the 4th House: This person can be married to their home. Juno in the 4th house can also indicate a need for a partner who is attached to the domestic environment. Another possibility is that you become more of a domestic type after marriage."