Saturn Return Can Bite Me

North Node in the fourth house

nobody@vox.com(fullmoon) — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:09:15 -0800

I know someone IRL with NN in 4th and he has the blingiest Christmas house you've ever seen.

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Chiron-Sun stuff

nobody@vox.com(fullmoon) — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:34:24 -0700

People with close Sun-Chiron conjunctions often are healers, and this is all the more true for you with your eighth-house Sun. The conjunction with the North Node tells me that this is your destiny, and it’s about to be triggered by the cardinal T-square in 2010. The trick is that we first have to heal ourselves, and planets on the South Node often give us clues for how to go about this. You may want to think about how you view material possessions and whether you would be prepared to give it all up if fulfilling your purpose in life depended on it. Moreover, you may want to meditate on how past and future are balanced in your present.

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Soul mate discussion

nobody@vox.com(fullmoon) — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:58:09 -0700

Soulmate signs (if you're into that sort of thing), and then a few couples for analysis:

Stevie and Lindsay:

"I have found, in my experience as an Astrologer, the two most important factors that indicate a significant relationship are contacts, from one person to the other, that hit one or more of the four angles of a chart: the Ascendant-Descendant axis (1st-7th house cusps, and the horizon line), and the Midheaven-Nadir axis (4th-10th house cusps), as well as the Lunar Nodes, which are considered strong indicators of our soul purpose and karma. I have noticed, in most of my significant relationships, a planet or planets, angles, or nodes will fall on one of my angles, nodes, or planets and sometimes vice versa. And this is totally the case in Lindsey and Stevie's relationship chart.

Lindsey's North Node (16 Aries) is conjunct Stevie's Ascendant (18 Aries). Stevie's North Node (13 Taurus) is conjunct Lindsey's Midheaven (10 Taurus). Stevie's Saturn (planet of karma) falls exactly on Lindsey's Ascendant/Mars/Pluto conjunction (17 Leo).

The way I read it is, they were married in a past life/lives (denoted through the Descendant, IC, and South Node connections), and in this life, they agreed to work it out in front of the world (as the Ascendant, Midheaven and North Nodes indicate). A Taurus Midheaven suggests that this time around Lindsey is gaining self worth by learning to rely on his own resources rather than other people's. An Aries Ascendant suggests that Stevie needed to become her own individual person outside of a relationship, and become a star on her own.

I think they tried to get back together as a couple because of the South Node familiarity, but the universe was prodding them toward their North Nodes and evolutionary growth. I think they separated and lived their own lives and became their own individual people, and now that they accomplished this, they are free to make music together again."

Desi and Lucy:

"Steven Forrest describes a soulmate as somebody who "messes with your soul." I like that. It implies that all of us are going to meet these special people along the way who our going to have a tremendous transformative impact on our foundation (our soul). We grow and evolve because of their presence in our lives. Everybody wants to find their one true soulmate, but even if you are lucky enough to find "the one," I suspect there will still be other people outside that relationship that will have a major soul shaping influence on you as well. Why limit ourselves to just one?
Also I have to add regardless of how beautiful and powerful the astrological connection is it doesn't mean that you are destined to live happily ever after or that your relationship will ever get off the ground in the first place. There is something that is much bigger than astrology that decides that and I think mostly it depends on how dedicated the two people are to making it work. It's only after the universe decides to bring you together and you both consciously decide that you want to be together that the astrology really comes into play. This applies to all kind of relationships not just romantic ones.
The fiery redhead Lucille Ball had an outgoing, expressive Leo Sun with a hard-as-nails Capricorn Moon in the Ascendant. Desi Arnaz was a sensitive Pisces with an equally sensitive and feeling Cancer Moon magnified to the extreme by it's conjunction with Pluto in the Ascendant. Just from those basic astrology observations we can see that these two people had very different natures but luckily opposites attract.

This is clearly shown astrologically by their Ascendants being almost directly opposite to each other. The Descendant and the 7th house in our own horoscope describe what we look for in another person and what we need in a relationship. Lucy has Cancer on the Descendant (conjunct Pluto) and Neptune in the 7th house so she needs emotional warmth, caring and domesticity (Cancer) in her partner and in her relationships with others. We can also expect with Neptune in the 7th that she would be asked to make great sacrifices in her marriage, she may over idealize her partner and look at her partner as a savior or become too much of a help mate to her partner. It's documented that Desi had problems with drugs and alcohol during their marriage and that's a classic Neptune in the 7th house situation.

Desi fit Lucy's 7th house bill perfectly with his Cancer Moon-Ascendant and his Pisces Sun and Mars (deposited by Neptune). Desi has Capricorn on his Descendant suggesting he needs structure and organization in his relationships and he's looking for an authority figure and somebody who will help further his career and social ambitions. Lucy fits his bill with her ambitious and authoritative Capricorn Moon and Ascendant. Their Moons overlay each other's seventh house of marriage, filling their partnership with strong emotions, both negative and positive, as they also provide one another with a great feeling of comfort and familiarity."

Howard and Robin:

"The next soulmate connection we see is that Howard's Nodal axis squares Robin's MC/IC axis. Her deepest roots (IC) and public destiny (MC) are intertwined with Howard's evolutionary journey (Nodal axis). Howard's Moon overlays her 10th house of Career, his emotional needs are in line with her career goals and this is another indication of deep comfort and success in their professional relationship. We see that his Sun and Capricorn planets overlay his 6th house of the work place proper, I noticed that when somebody's Sun falls in my 6th house they want to do things for me (it's a real Virgo feel), so Howard probably likes to serve and take care of Robin and Robin sees Howard as very useful.

In this case Howard and Robin are not lovers, they do not live together, and they don't even socialize that much outside of work. They have, however, spent almost every weekday morning together for over 25 years, and so they are forever linked together in the minds of their fans. That's a really powerful thing and their astrology together shows it."

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Shia Lebeouf really loves his mother.

nobody@vox.com(fullmoon) — Tue, 05 May 2009 11:23:57 -0700

I mean like, LOVES his mother. This reminded me of reading Noel Tyl and what he says about guys who have issues with their mothers. Namely, guys with a planet conjunct or square the nodal axis (page 72 on the link) tend to have this.

Checking Shia's chart, yup, he's got Venus in Cancer square the axis.

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North Node in 11th

nobody@vox.com(fullmoon) — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:03:07 -0700

I'm reading Yesterday's Sky by Steven Forrest and loving it. I so want to go around analyzing everybody with this thing now. But I am sort of having a hard time pegging the 11th- he seems to be better at describing south in 11th rather than north.

This is helpful:

Group involvement may have seemed like your destiny (North Node in the 11th conjunct the Earth), but that placement is really about, in your case, discovering what unique ability you can offer the world

I have to say though, that I don't get the "Earth" thing in here. Aren't we on the earth? It just seems strange to put the home planet in there.

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Steve Pavlina and his transits

nobody@vox.com(fullmoon) — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:15:56 -0800

I off-and-on read this guy's website. I am not into everything he discusses (the diet stuff, eh, no thank you), but sometimes he has some very interesting thoughts. And he is certainly right on the sleep cycle thing, 'cause I've done it.

Anyhoo, he's decided to go polyamorous for the New Year. The Internets are all in an uproar about this, as god knows everyone is whenever someone mentions non-monogamy. Someone commented on his forum that this might be due to a Uranus transit to his Venus. Steve helpfully provided his birth time. I was curious- he always seems to operate in some kind of Uranian experimental phase- I wanted to see what he had.

So: he's Aries with Sag rising/moon. Hm, somewhat of a surprise, but not really. Sag loves the brainy stuff. And Uranus in Libra would explain the relationship experimentation somewhat.

His north node is in Aquarius, so I guess that really fits him to experiment (especially with money, since he posts about that a lot)- it's his life mission to figure that stuff out for humanity.

I do wonder how it will work out for him a bit- the guy has Saturn in the fifth, which might hamper the Sag/Gemini-ness/free lovin' in his chart- but I guess we will see.

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"Marriage is the path. Don't vomit."

nobody@vox.com(fullmoon) — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:05:46 -0800

That's a direct quote from SunShines...yup, another Libra North Node thing.

That quote occurred to me as I was reading Elsa's blog again. She dreads getting married. Not being married, GETTING married...the day itself. Why? 'Cause he's Catholic and Must Have Big Catholic Wedding.

Again, in SunShines there's a part in the "Independence" (Libra NN, really) chapter where he's all*, "Marriage would be a BIG development for you. You should probably marry Catholic because they will tie you down by your hair and MAKE YOU COMMIT and then you could never have sex again if you wanted to bail."

Yeah, I can't help but wonder what her node is now.

* note: not a direct quote, as I don't have my book on me at present. Just summarizin'.

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An amusing peek at a chart

nobody@vox.com(fullmoon) — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:56:35 -0800

So, I got to meet a local celebrity from my hometown the other day. It was great fun- he's known for having the blingiest house at Christmas you have ever seen, and I got to tour the house. Huzzah!

So as I'm reading his website later, he happened to mention his birthday (the day before mine! Wow, I know a lot of April 23rd birthdays), AND the place of birth and time!

Yeah, I had to look.

He's a double Taurus (shopping, shopping), with a Sag moon (like me, hah), and URANUS RISING! That just cracked me up big time. He's in a very hierarchical profession/religion, but has the big ol' Sign of the Weirdo right front and center. With a north node in Leo (flashy!) in the fourth house...yes, he has a flashy house. (Interestingly enough, Chiron is conjunct the NN. I wonder what that means to him to do a flashy house with that aspect.) He's also a Venus Saturn person...a Catholic deacon sworn to celibacy.

Amusingly enough, my mother told him the next day that I'd seen we had nearby birthdays and he was all, "Taurus! Stubborn, likes to shop..." Believe me, if you've seen his house, you KNOW that. He must be really fun to go shopping with. Huh, I should meet the man more often. :)

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This is interesting

nobody@vox.com(fullmoon) — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:09:13 -0800

Obama family analysis.

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Fun with fixed signs

nobody@vox.com(fullmoon) — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:22:13 -0700

Not my chart, but similar.

"Michele, with several planets in Leo, your Ascendant in Scorpio, and Mars in Taurus on the Descendant, you are a strong fixed-sign person. I am, too, and so I can sympathize with where you are right now.

The fixed signs - Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, and Aquarius - can be difficult to work with, because they are stubborn and immovable. The flip side is that they are stable, reliable, and durable. We can carry burdens that would break others. Of course, that can mean we get a heavier load in life, too.

Leo and Aquarius are being impacted heavily right now due to a series of eclipses in these two signs that began this past February and will run until August 2009. To a lesser degree, Scorpio and Taurus also are being impacted (along with Scorpio and Taurus Rising). Since you are a Rising Scorpio, you are getting hit doubly hard. I don’t doubt that you are tired. I am, too! But hang in there, because you are being offered an opportunity to transform, grow, and evolve. Unfortunately, this never happens without a certain amount of pain.

Simultaneously with the eclipses, we are experiencing an opposition of Saturn and Uranus. These two patterns don’t seem to be related, but they are linked in an indirect way. I bring this up, because Saturn currently is moving through your tenth house of career and is transiting your lunar North Node in Virgo. The North Node often indicates our “mission” in life, so I feel fairly sure that you are about to find it.

Your challenge, as I see it, is that you have a lot of “self-oriented” Leo energy in your chart, while your North Node in Virgo indicates that your life’s work is about service to others. You will have to find a balance that allows you to fully express who you are while also serving humanity."

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