14 posts tagged “sagittarius”

Jupiter is the planet of wealth. You can't accurately assess someone's wealth potential without determining this planet's strength. That said, I've long puzzled over the following observation: People I've known with the greatest money difficulties often have Jupiter in or ruling the 2nd--while the more successful ones often have a 2nd house Saturn. This runs counter to conventional wisdom, which says Jupiter brings good fortune and Saturn brings bad luck.
Maybe this is because we no longer live in the traditional world—where the family fortune spelled one's own financial fate, where jumping class lines was difficult, where Saturn described the limits of a life, rather than the efforts to overcome them. Jupiter brings an expectation of privilege--although most I've known with Jupiter in or ruling the 2nd come from middle class lives. Even so, their sense of entitlement is strong. No matter the actual balance in their bank account, about their future, they tend to feel secure. “Something will come,” they say. And something usually does. John, for example, always had a roof over his head and a good meal, also money for shoes, his masseuse and his dental bill, despite going years without any income.

From Daily Fix:

Someone told me that she tends to get in trouble with her big mouth and has to restrain herself at times from making comments about people's stupidity.

I had to look: Mercury conjunct Jupiter in Sadge.

I liked this one.

I'm starting to wonder reading this.

Elsa attempts a consultation on a really hard problem. Freedom vs. commitment again...

I have quite the history of getting into a relationship, things going well for a while, then I become somewhat bored and eventually become intrigued by someone new. I guess the boredom sort of builds up and then the new interest happens very quickly, catching my partner totally off guard.I used to have problems with cheating - now I just break up really quickly with the first person so I can be with the second w/o technically cheating.I know I have strong tendencies towards interest in the new and different romantically, but the problem is I also find great pleasure in the stability and comfort of having a steady partnership. The in between thing hasn’t worked either - greater distance, not seeing each other as much, just makes me dissatisfied at the lack of intense and regular interaction and wanting to find something more substantial. I seem to want intense depth and yet novelty as well, or something like that. I don’t know if it’s a matter of not meeting someone compatible enough, or if I’d do this no matter what, always wanting something more/different - likely the latter, I think.

On the Venus in Aqu./Uranus front, I agree that I will always have these tendencies for sudden attractions and it can be instead about whether or not to act on them - however, it also can (& does) mean a simultaneous sudden turning off of my feelings towards the current partner. It’s pretty much textbook Venus/Uranus. I don’t know what to do with that at all. It’s like something besides my personal will decides that it’s just time for this relationship to be over…and even if I want otherwise, my feelings are gone. Not my feelings towards them as a friend, but romantic ones.

And she doesn't want to do polyamory at all, which really screws the pooch here, I think. (Really, I have some of the aspects she cites as meaning "I want all the attention!" and "Mine!", she has more Jupiter/Sadge than I do, and I could handle it.) But you can't deal with someone who is absolutely no on the idea, so never mind.

First, the level of freedom you want and need and require is off the charts just with the stellium in Sagittarius alone. The Saturn trine suggests you have the capacity to reign this in but I am not sure this (restriction) is what would make you happiest. Taking responsibility for your Wild Horse-ness is probably a better tack.

So to apply this knowledge you can look at the fact that you will cheat but you won’t tolerate an open relationship where the other person can “cheat” and that’s a vivid manifestation of the inflation right there.

I think you can have both these things to an extent. The problem for you is the word, “extent”. With a chart like this you just don’t want to suffer any restriction or tie down of any kind. In short you want it all which is just not available to any of us for any length of time.

We don’t really know what would happen if you can contain your impulse to split because you have never experimented with this. Franky, I’d say that you  have lacked the maturity but the Saturn transit is here to fix that. You’ve been humbled now (by despair) so you are ready to try something new.

I don’t think you will ever get rid of your freedom urges but you can come to realize that acting on them brings you pain. You could compare this to alcoholism or even my love of ice cream. I will always like ice cream but if I eat it, I am going to crash. So what you become here, is the hero in your own story. The person who had a fatal flaw but opted out.

I attempted to post comments, but that seems to be having issues. So here's my thoughts:

(a) She rules out polyamory, but one option would be to find a partner who wants to be monogamous to her, but is okay with her dating others. I know of a few folks in real life who are like this and they are probably hard to find, but it could happen. It sounds like her problem is that she won't share, but if she finds a guy who doesn't want to worry about juggling girlfriends, or wants a happy girlfriend who won't dump him when her attention span goes, or is secure enough to not worry about this stuff too much, he could be guy #1 and then she could rotate in her other guys.

This, however, does not really account for her lack of interest in guy #1 as soon as guy #2 comes about, though. I would not argue with Elsa about trying to stick with guy #1 and not immediately hop to guy #2 for a change and see if she can handle it, but if that doesn't work, maybe she should just...

(b) Accept that she is only going to have short-term partnerships. Jupiter on the descendant means she will have tons and tons of prospects and luck in finding them over the years. Maybe what she needs to do is warn the guys up front that she's only gonna be in the relationship for a short period of time and that's all she can handle. And date guys who feel similarly. Because god knows you won't run out of those people :P This doesn't really account for getting older and wanting to "settle down," but that's probably where "just pick a guy and stick with him and don't leave when your brain has moved on" would come in anyway.

I off-and-on read this guy's website. I am not into everything he discusses (the diet stuff, eh, no thank you), but sometimes he has some very interesting thoughts. And he is certainly right on the sleep cycle thing, 'cause I've done it.

Anyhoo, he's decided to go polyamorous for the New Year. The Internets are all in an uproar about this, as god knows everyone is whenever someone mentions non-monogamy. Someone commented on his forum that this might be due to a Uranus transit to his Venus. Steve helpfully provided his birth time. I was curious- he always seems to operate in some kind of Uranian experimental phase- I wanted to see what he had.

So: he's Aries with Sag rising/moon. Hm, somewhat of a surprise, but not really. Sag loves the brainy stuff. And Uranus in Libra would explain the relationship experimentation somewhat.

His north node is in Aquarius, so I guess that really fits him to experiment (especially with money, since he posts about that a lot)- it's his life mission to figure that stuff out for humanity.

I do wonder how it will work out for him a bit- the guy has Saturn in the fifth, which might hamper the Sag/Gemini-ness/free lovin' in his chart- but I guess we will see.

How would Junos in Aquarius and Sagittarius work in a relationship?

But on the surface, your Juno in Aquarius will desire individuality and independence within the partnership, and a partner who is quirky, unique, even a little...um...strange? will work okay with you. This placement even supports long distance relationships. If your mate is Sun, Moon, or Asc Aquarius...you're on it, doggone it...

Juno in Sag supports a partner who's from foreign countries, who likes long trips, higher education, religious practices (stuff associated with the Sag sign...) If you're a Sag sun, Asc, or Moon...looks good.

Juno in Aquarius - enjoys experimenting with unusual or non-traditional choices in relationships, and demands an independent role in the outside community. Partners may share an interest in humanitarian or social causes. Under stress, this placement leads to unreliable or eccentric behavior, or cool disdain for the partner. Examples: Victoria Beckham, Sonny Bono, Katie Couric, Elizabeth Hurley, Robert Downey jr., Sarah Jessica-Parker, Christopher Reeve, J.K. Rowling, Brooke Shields.

Juno in the Fourth:

You need a comfortable and secure relationship of mutual nurturing and emotional support. This is the foundation stone for all your other activities and pursuits. The most important relationships in your life will be with those you share your home with, or close family.

Juno in Aquarius:

You require a relationship that honors your need for personal freedom and individuality. You may experiment with unconventional forms of relating, such as open marriage or role reversals. Or you may choose to remain unattached, making friendship the basis for your close relationships, even if they include a sexual dimension.

Juno in Aquarius: 
Your mate will tend to be freedom oriented, progressive, friendly rather than passionate, insecure in personal and romantic expressions and concerned with ideals and progress. Likewise you tend to react with spontaneity and impulsiveness within your committed relationships and are distressed at the thought of losing personal independence and freedom. You need a friend, a comrade and someone who can at least understand your need for constant new ideas, mental challenges and altruistic goals. Equality is an important word to you and is an area that will capture your focus and your attention as you learn to adjust to working together towards shared causes. Your relationships will tend to be trend setters and unique in some obvious way setting them apart from the traditional forms of commitments.

I get really, really annoyed at hearing, "The Moon in your chart is your mother, that's what your mother was like." Or alternately, "The Fourth House is just how your home life was like."

Um. NO. Not for me, anyway. My mother is not remotely Sagittarian when it comes to nurturing. Other than being talkative, that's about it. We didn't travel a lot, we were not an intellectual family, we were not weird (I have an Aquarian 4th house) in upbringing. My home was NOT free-wheeling or intellectual or roam-y. I came out like that, but nobody else was. So while that might be how I end UP, in a free-wheeling intellectual house, that's NOT where I come from. At all.