12 posts tagged “saturn in leo”

Lesson #1: If you’ve got Saturn in Leo, keep your ego in check. Saturn in Leo can mean all kinds of things, but one of the things it can mean is you gotta keep that ego in check. Because Saturn in the sign that rules the egomaniac in all of us indicates that the ego can become a burden, a hindrance, an obstacle and a general source of bad moodness all around if it’s not turned into discipline and self-control.That’s partly because West having Saturn in this sign indicates it’s not exactly ego in the positive sense of self-confidence, but an ego born out of Saturn’s specialties: fear, insecurity, and a driving sense of need. And that just doesn’t work all that well, as things so frequently don’t when Saturn’s got the reins.
Lesson #2: If your Jupiter and sun in Gemini are opposite your Neptune in Sagittarius, somehow you gotta teach yourself how to keep your lips zipped sometimes. It’s great to have Jupiter conjunct sun usually, although it does have a tendency to inflate the sense of self. But when you’ve got a blabbermouth sun and a blabbermouth Jupiter opposing a blabbermouth Neptune, things can occasionally get out of control. Sagittarius is known for its blunt willingness to speak its mind, even when other people wish it wouldn’t. It’s an impulsive sign as well. This honesty can be all well and good, or at least useful on occasion. But Neptune is also the planet that will get itself all tangled up in delusions, and Neptune in Sagittarius will happily spout those delusions given an eighth of a chance.

From Medusa:

Poor darling Virgoans with Saturn about to go into their sign. Yes, they'll handle it better than poncy old Leo but still...
They must know something is up if they just read scopes for Leo the last few weeks: "Yay! Saturn is sodding off & soon you will ever so much more happy & free...enlightened, everything will work out better once stinky Saturn is gone from your sign..."
That sort of thing.
And then it's like "Virgo, dear Virgo, it such a good thing that you are already so mature and wise, that you enjoy devoting all of your life to hard work, health and personal growth. Fun is out of fashion now and...."

DISAPPOINTMENT?
why, sure....
you try to look on the bright side
keep up the cheery attitude
and take positive stance
because that's what they tell you to do
but you can't help feeling disappointed
even insulted sometimes
there's always a let down at the end of saturn transit
and this one is a whopper
coming at Regulus with a retrograde Venus
and it doesn't help to hear it's all an illusion
because when it's YOUR life
YOUR heart
there's naturally tremendous anxiety
connected with letting go
and it DEFINITELY doesn't help to be told
that this is all a re-enactment of some other event
situation
or circumstance
from long ago
because the present is all we've got
and how we act and react right now
so in these last few moments
of Saturn in Leo
come from the heart
and you'll come through fine
there is no way,
however,
to protect yourself from some exposure
but that is the whole point of this transit
to overcome your fear of exposure
remember:
ironing takes out the wrinkles 

We're coming up on the end of Saturn in Leo
over the next five weeks
this is a culmination of everything
you've been deeply emotionally in volved in
for more than two years
and you HAVE been deeply emotionally involved
whether it is business or personal
the transit of Saturn in Leo
puts you in a position
where your whole heart goes into something
or someone
and you totally identify with the experience
it reflects everything you are and want to be
you invest yourself so utterly into it
or him or her
that you can become over identified with the outcome
and thus, of course, feel ripped off
if things don't work out exactly the way you want
which they usually don't
so now
as venus prepares to go retrograde over regulus
and saturn approaches it
it's a crescendo
as the pardon the expression
fat lady prepares to sing

venus still on regulus
so it's a powerful moment for libras
you get a chance to experience heroic friendship
and to experience love on a very high
non possessive non prejudicial way
it's a higher form of love
but it's not traditional marriage
Tauruses feel the enormous pull of family life
and are proud they toughed it out
everyone
pay homage to the goddess of love
and no matter what strife is going on
venus at regulus is love on a higher planer
is in the air
For many weeks to come now
Venus will be hovering around Regulus,
the only first magnitude star
right smack on the Earth's
path around the Sun,
which is called the ecliptic.
That's a big deal.
It raises women to a heroic stature,
elevates them and gives them special status.
It also gives special power to
Tauruses, Libras, and Leos.
Libras will shine as friends,
Tauruses, within their families,
and Leos figure into prominence.
The rest of us enjoy a special
treatment wherever we have
Leo in our horoscopes.
Don't abuse the power, though,
'cause Saturn is there too.
So don't get uppity.
Be grateful, this is a rare passage. 

From raging universe:

Several of us here have just had Saturn returns in Leo with many dramatic and illuminating events. When Saturn is positioned in Leo, the 5th house, or with the Sun in the birth chart, there is a block to this natural expression of ego and self aggrandizement. There is often a great amount of guilt and fear about owning this superiority. It doesn't matter if it's true or not. Leos feel it and must cope with the results successfully in order to do well in their lives. Shrinking from the spotlight shortchanges both themselves and their eager audiences who can't thrive without their luminaries.
Saturns in Leo are among the chosen ones. They are cut out to do the job well. It can take many many years to get completely and comfortably into the limelight, but once they get there, the stage is graced with truly stellar performances that uplift, entertain, guide, disseminate joy, and perform a vital function to society.
If a Saturn in Leo is a teacher, he should be the best one in the school. If she is an actress, no one can compare. If she is an artist she stands out far and above the rest. All is well as long as they remain loyal to their authenticity and step fully into the chosen spot, embracing it with enthusiasm, letting the light shine on, adoring themselves, the audience, the moment, and all of life. A grand celebration. A star is always born.

Democracy is wonderful in theory, but at this stage of evolution, mankind always establishes an order of power and influence. The grandeur of Saturns in Leo can best be expressed, not by diminishing others, but by proving their superior skills where their talents lie, and taking the stage with poise, dignity, and purpose. These chosen ones can lead with ability assuring a democratic structure under their auspices. Firm and knowing monarchs, with the good of the group in mind. Otherwise anarchy would result, and we're not ready for that yet.

My third and last (yay! though I'm not really out of the clear until Saturn hits Virgo, really) exact SR happened while I was on vacation. Before the trip I thought, "Great timing! The last time it happened was when Dad died, so this'll be a nice opposite pick-me-up."

Well, not so much. While the vacation spot was lovely, the relatives I was traveling with and I all ended up extremely cranky and hating each other by the end of the trip. Saturn kicks some ass again, I guess...

Know-It-All Astrologer:

On April 19th, Saturn moved direct in Leo. Which, of course, Saturn takes literally and starts directing us to take action, demanding us to focus on goals, goals, goals. In September, Saturn will be moving on into Virgo so this is the final opportunity for those with Leo prominent in their charts and/or with Saturn in Leo to take advantage of Saturn's always necessary and usually annoying lessons. Take responsibility (not to be confused with blame) for whatever is showing up in your life and for achieving the goals most important to you. Focus on what you can learn to become a stronger and wiser person. Saturn's lessons aren't always easy, but they always lead to enduring rewards. Saturn teaches us how to master climbing up the rockiest of mountains, because once we do, we can climb anything that gets in our way.

I am not in the best of moods these days. Gee, I wonder why...could it be... SATURN?!

(Heh. Sorry, I can't resist.)

Anyhoo, I am definitely in a sulky-ass mood and relating to this entire series. I had a teacher once who said, "I'm not good with reality," and I think I agree. Reality is depressing, dammit. Maybe it's why I'm into that Who Wants To Be A Superhero show lately.

I'm a chaos magnet. I am very well behaved (and if you were a chaos magnet, you would too- the  second you do something illegal, the cops would come), but wacky shit follows me around on a regular basis. Unfortunately, the wacky stuff has just been depressing accidents/floods/death in the last few years. So sue me, but I'd like to have a life where things were interesting in a POSITIVE manner, rather than a negative manner.

But how does one get a life like that in our world?

As far as I can figure, you can either (a) go into the military or the CIA or somewhere where you deal with danger every day- and to me, that's still on the negative scale because I'm not into craving that- or (b) you get famous somehow, and people are much more willing to give you opportunities of a good nature.

And that's where the Saturn in Leo bit comes in. And where I start quoting from the above link. Because much as I hate "Look at me, I'm an attention whore!" behavior (my mom, the Pisces Moon...argh), Saturn in Leo is all about that.

"There is almost always a feeling of specialness with the placement, then an eclipse, then the question, "What happened? I thought I was special. I thought I was going to be Somebody!" Much of the journey of those with Saturn in Leo is to redeem or "earn back" their place in the Sun."

Once upon a time, I used to work under a guy who started out a meeting by asking what everybody wanted to be when they grew up, because "nobody grew up saying they wanted to do what we do now." Which was depressing...but accurate. I always figured I'd be some sort of big shot and not just a lackey. However, things haven't gone as planned, and living the lackey lifestyle has been easier for me to deal with when the other hours of my day are spent juggling people's problems and drama for years on end. Especially when the lackey situation is very cushy. Dull a good part of the time (even though I do believe in what I work on- it's not too creative though), but cushy.

I've kind of pruned down on the emotional attachments in recent years. My local friends are mostly people I see at certain locations doing certain activities, rather than people I yak on the phone and e-mail with. My closer friends all moved away. I stopped dating, which REALLY pruned down the bad drama (and thank god for that). So that lowers my level of Stupid Drama, so that all I have to deal with is Family Drama that I can't escape. Of course, these days that level of drama is even higher than when I had Relationship Drama and Friend Drama going on on a regular basis, so...

Something my off-and-on shrink asks me is, what am I going to do after Dad dies and the Family Drama Situation changes? Having spent the last 9 years dealing with it, and having put plans on hold to deal with it... I don't know any more. I really don't. Mostly I'm too tired to care.

Back to that lead article in the Saturn in Leo series, the author refers to the soap-opera early life of Danielle Steele, which makes mine look like sunshine and roses, and Stephen King:

"So there is an issue of melodrama with Saturn in Leo. Where does real life begin and melodrama end? Certainly the soap opera is not the preferred reality paradigm. Most people learn to contain the energy in an impersonal way, as Steele did when she began putting bigger than life incidents into her novels and not into her personal life.

This is a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig problem for the Saturn in Leo crowd -- what's the line between fiction and reality? Yes, we are poor players that strut and fret our hour upon the stage, but who's the director? What's the difference between drama and melodrama? What if we create from a destructive place? Are we required to destroy one world and create another?"

Yeah, i write novels and stuff...but god knows I have not been in the mood lately to put anything down.

Here's something I find rather scary:

"During your lifetime, YOU will create a world that eventually displeases you. YOU will destroy it and YOU will create a new one. This is in the nature of things."

There's more about this in other articles. Such as How To Create A Better God:

"To have Saturn in Leo is to want to be a fiery intuitive and to want to have a God that is like the Sun God Apollo. The desire is to be special, to be gifted, and especially, to be gifted in the arts that Apollo blessed. Those would be drama, painting, singing, dance and theater.
The catch here is that although most of us would love to be kissed by the gods, it is sometimes not all it's cracked up to be.
Even more than that, maybe, it is wishing to help the sun itself to rise in the morning. There is the desire to be that important, to participate that magically and intrinsically in creation and the world around you."

She refers to a guy with Saturn in Leo in the fourth house who married a woman who threatened suicide and he and she were still miserable 30 years later. Some of her responses to him were:

"What interests me is what conditioned you to the brutality of this bondage?  You cannot live until you shake that off and likely it was some brutal teaching on the part of your father either by his demands or by his wretched behavior and you were reconciled to being better than him which has now become a living grave.

I recommend going to the lady in America but first you must find a god that will forgive you and that means a little creation on your part.  Your god is not a worthy god and does not deserve to have this question brought before him.  Find one that does!"

I certainly have to admit i've got the "bondage" thing going on...related to father, obviously. And that is one of the things the shrink says, along the lines of "You can't beat yourself up for not responding to the situation the way your mother does forever." Hard to do, though. I still think I'm being an asshole about the whole situation because I don't react to it the way "normal" people do. I don't know if that's a God thing, but I can't exactly forgive myself for drifting away instead of clinging closer. I may not approve of Mom's clinging, but it's probably better for Dad that she clings, compared to those of us who flee. And that's where I feel like shit: that I'm not self-sacrificing enough and in the right way. The way that I do self-sacrifice in really isn't acknowledged or appreciated- I get Mom yelling, "What the hell is YOUR problem? You're not dealing with this at all, why are you acting like you have pain?" because I don't act exactly the way she does.

Gah.

Back to the Saturn series, there's an article on blessings and curses:
 

"One prevalent theme is the idea that you have been bestowed with gifts that you MUST use. In other words, the gift comes with strings attached. it's somewhat like the little girl in The Red Shoes. Once she put on the shoes, she could not stip dancing. With Saturn in Leo talent can become obsession.

Singing, writing and dancing could be joyous -- probably should be joyous -- but instead there is this terrible pressure to "make it" or "do it". It reminds me of the way Little League is treated by parents and coachs. What ever happened to childhood?"

God knows I'm not into Liberace, but I can relate to this bit:

"Liberace is almost a caraciture of a performer and that is a tricky place for a performer to be. One might wish to get "lost in " the peformance, a sign of greatness or to give one's "all", one's honest best, but to be one step removed from oneself to the point almost of identifying with a potentially hostile audience .... Where did all the fun go, the personal warmth, the feeling of being lost in the gift of performance? One feels the presence of Saturn in Liberace's forced march, so to speak, and his comments, perhaps geared to head "it" off at the pass, pointing to outrageous clothes and jewelry, "You bought this for me" etc. It's as though he wants to critize himself before the audience does ... but where did this anticipation come from?"

I will make fun of myself before other people can get to it. Okay, so partially I can't resist when I'm such an easy target, but there is a level of "beat 'em to the punch and do it  better" to it as well. And there is a part of me that's always hanging out in the back of my head making snarky-ass comments as to what I'm doing.

And then there's the Saturn in Leo in the tenth house article. I am not a religious figure, but this is interesting.

"This is a reading for a young man who put a lot of effort into training to be a minister and then realized at his Saturn Return that he was an atheist. 

This man has Saturn in Leo in the 10th house, indicating a great deal of time must be spent coming under the proper relationship with the "Source". However, this article also deals with general Saturn in Leo issues and will be of interest to all in the age groups.

IT BEGINS: You have greatness within you and you are cowering before it.  You want to lead your fellow men but you found out you were going to lead them down a blind alley to a dangerous dead end and it freaked you out.  So now you are badly shaken and licking your wounds. 

Well, you're not the first man in the world that happened to.  Be so glad it happened now and not 30  years from now. 

The lights have gone out temporarily in your world and you think some great power failed or more importantly failed YOU, but what you don't realize is that YOU are the person who is supposed to relight that fire.  You are the Sun you are looking for.  You are the warmth you are looking for.  You are the Caring Creator you are looking for.  Find this out and then you can lead other men from darkness to light which is your dearest desire.  Re-Create yourself.  Create your life and then other men will follow you.  You are free to create any way you choose for you are omnipotent.

There is greatness within you.  I am reading your Saturn specifically in the 10th house.  I'm not describing greatness in some a narrow Sunday School sense, like you'll go to heaven someday if your shoes are all in a row in your closet and you never step on an insect or masturbate or hurt a girl's feelings.  Good grief.  Get on with it.  Life is an exciting adventure or it is nothing at all.

When the world rejected Churchill, he learned to do masonry and built walls. In so doing, he rebuilt himself, his world.  We create these things.  We are creators.

Maybe everybody around you is wearing white gloves (?) Were you Episcopal or something?  That style of religious experience won't work for you. What you need, my dear young man, is a hero of a god. 

Heroes are everywhere, past, present and future.  Personally I prefer mine in literature and history.  They're a little hard to come by out here in Jamul, California .  Churchill and the Duke of Wellington inspire me tremendously but they had their struggles.  You aren't the only person in the world whose map has fallen apart.  Look what Napoleon said at his first Saturn Return: "The veil is torn…. It is sad when one and the same heart is torn by such conflicting feelings for one person…. I need to be alone. I am tired of grandeur; all my feelings have dried up. I no longer care about my glory. At twenty-nine I have exhausted everything."

Keep a sense of humor. Keep looking until you find what it is that is great in us, in humans, in spite of all our stumbling around. 

You are not an atheist. You are the farthest thing from an atheist, but you  looked in all the wrong places for God and I strongly suggest it was to find someone/something, some greater power that you could easily please.  You can be very lazy that way with a sort of smirkingness about your greatness.  So now that you don't believe in God anymore, you have your greatness back in the cheapest way possible.  You diminished God so that makes you a man?  Think again.  It's not that easy.

What you are looking for is inside of you.  You are the God you wanted and you, unfortunately, are not an easy God to please.  See what you have done to yourself.  It is really marvelous. 

You can be as passive as a 13 year old girl sometimes. I know this from looking at your chart.   Don't sit there and wait for it to present itself to you, go looking for it.

Your fear of the Bible and all that is fear of your greatest weakness which is your desire to please someone or something very pasty and worthless, and you know it.  You fought that away from you so you would not take that easy route, would not sell out, but YOU did it so at least you have done something!  

You used to try and please God because you thought that was something you could easily do (be honest with yourself, that is the truth).  When you found out it was a "crock of shit", as you describe it, now you are very afraid because you know something is really going to be asked of you.  Don't worry, you can do it!  Look in the mirror and please the only god that really matters, YOU.   You are a very demanding God to please and you will not let yourself get away with anything superficial.

It is in the very nature of things to destroy and create new worlds. Every culture has a creation myth and in most of the, the Creator makes a world that is imperfect so he destroys it and creates another one. I am convinced that this is what our lives are meant to be like. We forget out powerful we are. Most of us are afraid to destroy anything. But those who are not are powerful gods in their own worlds. Every creator must also be a destroyer. This is the secret of creation. This is the special power of Leo, the Creative Force.

Learn to be a fearless destroyer and an intrepid creator. Look on your creation and see that it is good. If later you look on it and it is not good, destroy it and create another. This is how the shaman keeps the angel of death nearby. This is the secret of power, to always keep in front of you the notion of death, the reality of death. Then you will be fearless.

The idea, concept or image of God is very important to those with Saturn in Leo and especially in the 10th house. But there was no "Great Power" that failed this young man. What happened is he failed to seize the power to create something ne in the space his disappointment provided. This power is without limits in us. Those with Saturn in Leo know this. They do not hesitate to look on their creations with a critical eye for the future. With this outlook, every failed icon is an opportunity to create a more appropriate one. We should expect to outgrow our gods and heroes. But here is the critical part for Saturn in Leo. We should not expect to find new ones. We should expect to create new ones."

I can't help but think that this guy has a point. If you've got bad aspects that get set off by Saturn in Leo, should you just rule out dating anyone in that particular age group because they will also set off your bad aspects?

I can't help but wonder about this one myself. Even though the one person who really responds to it is all like, "Don't worry about it."

"As for your Saturn question, I wouldn't worry a bit. If you look at the charts of long married couples, they usually have at least one heavy Saturn contact. Saturn is what binds us and keeps us together. It simply means you have a karmic link to the person and have chosen that person in this lifetime to work out that particular karmic pattern."

But doesn't that amount to your having karmic links to EVERYONE in that age group? Isn't that a bit much?

Also from Practical Astrology, I liked this one.

"Uranus operates on two different time scales. One is very slow, and the other is very fast. It takes seven full years for it to make its journey through a single sign. Changes will generally occur for you in the sector it transits, but changes that take place over the course of seven years sometimes don't really attract our attention. It's like they happened accidentally through the drifting of time. For example, at the beginning of its transit through your 11th house you may have one set of friends. At the end of its transit, you may have an entirely different group you hang out with. You didn't plan this, maybe weren't even thinking about it, but somehow it happened.

Uranus, though, also works with lightning quick speed. If you've experienced a moment where your life changed overnight--that's Uranus. Disturbances, agitation, suddenness, shock, surprise--those are the key concepts for Uranus. Memorize that list and you'll be somewhat prepared for what it does. Sometimes disturbances are just disturbing, and agitation just agitating, but sometimes suddenness is a great thing. As in suddenly winning the lottery, getting your chance to appear on Leno as a stand-up comic, or whatever other improbable thing you'd always wanted but never thought would happen. Uranus can make these kinds of things happen, and sometimes it does. It's the kind of planet that can wake you up in the middle of the night with an absolutely brilliant idea--or an inexplicable panic attack. It never telegraphs its intentions in advance, and sometimes it seems to act with no reason. If it all sounds a bit hard to handle, well sometimes it is.

Uranus doesn't reward hard work; it believes in short cuts. It doesn't reward sensible planning either; planning just bores and annoys it. If you insist on making carefully laid plans in the sector Uranus is traveling for you, at some point it will kick over your apple cart and send all your little plans spilling all over everywhere, just because it's a contrary planet that way. So the thing is to avoid hard work and sensible plans in the sector Uranus is affecting in your life. Instead practice wrapping your mind around the idea that you can magnetically attract whatever you need in that sector. Practice believing that stuff will come to you, instead of you racing all over town to get it. If you need a mate, practice believing that you can, in fact, attract one. If you need a job, practice believing that you can attract opportunities to capitalize on. If you need answers to difficult personal problems, practice believing that they will come to you if you're willing to wait and listen to your inner voice for them."

Uranus has been in my fourth house of family (hell)- yeah, that explains the sudden shit-creek-ness over the last few years, I suppose, especially with Neptune in there too.

Pretty soon, it's going into my fifth house. That's kinda scary...but I'd rather have unexpected relationships coming up than unexpected family drama, by far.

Actually, this one on Saturn in Leo and Neptune in Aquarius opposed to each other explains a lot too.

"Saturn in opposition to Neptune often acts as a wake-up call.  If there’s a problem you’ve been putting off dealing with because you just can’t face it, Saturn is the planet that can either help you to deal with it or force you to deal with it.  Neptune is also the planet of chaos, while Saturn is the planet of structure.  If there’s been an area of your life that’s been chaotic, Saturn in opposition to Neptune can help you bring structure to the situation."

While listening to this Lost podcast on "Walkabout", I'm starting to think, "Hm, ya think Locke has Saturn in Leo? He so has the "I'm supposed to be special, why am I not?" thing going on."

Cliff (on the podcast) thinks Locke was some kind of secret military guy, but I don't think so. I think Locke was always kind of a loser but thought he should be otherwise.