5 posts tagged “sun in seventh house”

"Okay, see that Sun in the 7th house?  He HAS to be a in a relationship. Genuinely needs it to feel expressed in his life. But then he has the Mercury-Uranus right on the cusp of his House of Love…That’s needing absolute freedom in love so how apt that he sets up a publishing empire (Mercury) based around sexual freedom and a situation where he always has more or less three girlfriends but maybe not the necessity of true intimacy with any of them. Top marks for manifesting Mercury-Uranus so well. And Mercury is his chart ruler…If your chart ruler is aligned with Uranus,  you WILL lead a trail-blazing life, one way or another."

Hoo boy!

Here's a take on this I haven't heard before:

Because while every house in the natal chart will, at times, be challenging, the house your Sun occupied at the moment of your first independent breath will always be the most frustrating. That’s because the areas of life it represents will always be the most demanding. They have to be. While your Sun sign is your karmic degree (that part of your contract that validates your solar greatness and illuminates to the outside world how you’re karmically qualified to make your mark in this lifetime), your Sun house is the clause in your contract that unequivocally identifies just where you agreed to make it. Therefore, on the bright side, your Sun house represents the field of human life where you can expect to shine because it reveals exactly where you promised to hit that spiritual home run.
On the dark side, however, this house also represents the areas of life where the cosmos expects you to show up for the games, play by the rules, and swing for the fences like the pro you were trained to be. Yes, the one you agreed to become, not just on those good-luck days when you feel like it, but on those bad-hair days when you don’t. Unless, of course, you don’t mind forfeiting your spot on the field and your shot at success. After all, it is your promise, your consequences. Besides, this house is not supposed to be easy. Being brilliant never is, at least not when it requires keeping a cosmic promise to literally get up every day and figuratively break a real human sweat. This, by the way, is more than just the best way to honor your solar commitment. It’s the only way to access your maximum potential. That’s right. There’s absolutely no way you will ever be able to reap the universal rewards of success and fulfillment without doing the hard work of being a major player in your Sun house. In fact, every time you choose to do something less strenuous in that house, like perhaps nothing, the universe takes it personally, as it should. This is usually when your ego takes a hit and your life takes a dive. When you neglect the responsibilities of your Sun house, you’re not only sidestepping your personal commitment, you’re actually bypassing your designated potential, causing you to unhappily plummet straight into the astrological abyss of deep solar dissatisfaction. This is not to be confused with any other type of earthly discontent because, when it comes to the dark side of an untapped Sun, the dissatisfaction is so deep it actually alienates even your strongest supporters by compelling you to habitually whine and complain about all the things you never get from your Sun house, while even more habitually making no human attempt to work for them. In short, Lazy Sun Syndrome, and yes, you may already be afflicted.

Guilty....

For instance, if your 10th house Sun is not out there in the public eye doing a brilliant interpretation of responsible leadership, you can be sure it’s only because you’re somewhere inside your own private hell complaining about the authority you always fail to achieve and the recognition you never seem to get. If, on the other inharmonious hand, you’re the one weeping and moaning about relationships that are too difficult to sustain and partnerships that are impossible to achieve, you can be sure that your 7th house Sun isn’t doing its best to be a shining example of balanced cooperation at its finest. Who do you suppose spends a good deal of their time griping about resources that aren’t there, banks that don’t come through, and partners who are emotionally, financially, or spiritually bankrupt? The 8th house Sun whose powerful paranoia keeps them from doing their very own share of the deep sharing work. It doesn’t matter if that 2nd house Sun of yours has agreed to show the rest of us how to make money and accumulate wealth, if a reliable value system has not been developed, your lazy Sun complaints about high prices and insufficient earnings are old and annoying. If your 4th house Sun is constantly crying about the lack of stability on the domestic scene, it’s a pretty sure bet that you’re the one dominating the household by not doing the hard work of giving others the psychological foundation you promised, or worse, the emotional security they need.

Eek. On to my issue...

Sun in the 7th House
With the Sun positioned in the 7th house of your natal chart, you have agreed to apply the hard-earned expertise of your Sun sign to the mutual commitment of close personal relationships. This means that you must now use the power of your solar degree to responsibly celebrate others, brilliantly neutralize adversaries, and impressively establish alliances. No wonder you find it necessary to measure yourself by the status and value of your partnerships. On some level, you’re instinctively aware that you just can’t achieve success and happiness all by yourself. You can’t.

GODDAMN ASTROLOGICAL EFFING CODEPENDENCY BARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRF.

In fact, accessing your maximum potential not only depends on your willingness to relate to those around you effectively, but on your ability to do so objectively. With your Sun pledged to the symmetrical spirit of the 7th house, you’re actually committed to the collaborative give-and-take of shared cooperation. That is why the universe tends to provide an obstacle-free path for you every time you direct your earthly efforts to any aspect of social enrichment, contractual agreements, or public relations.

Um.....not really in my case. The Saturn square kind of kicks that upside the head with bloody combat boots.

Not surprisingly, being so other-oriented does have a few personal disadvantages in the real world, like being a universal magnet for every instant entanglement and mismatched liaison on the planet. This explains that frequently frustrating social life with all the less-than-rewarding relationships, or as you see it, your inescapable fate, which it is until you make a conscious decision to bit that unavoidable bullet and begin the hard work of building your partnerships on the only foundation that can support them: mutual respect and total equality. You did make a promise to devote yourself to the hard work of creating equitable unions by balancing opposing forces, not manipulating them, which is why harmony and prosperity must now be achieved without losing yourself in the process, or worse, dominating whoever will let you. It’s also why your happiness tends to head south whenever you try to either tyrannically control the important people in your life or just helplessly sacrifice yourself for the sake of keeping them in it. That’s because surrendering to either one of these two self-serving behaviors is when a real partnership ceases to be one and, according to the cosmos, the real reason you’re often without one.

Your Lazy Sun Syndrome Complaints: “My partners aren’t devoted to me;” “My partners are always trying to control me.”

So I'm taking Elsa's beginner astrology class, and I figured I'd mention a few of the posts I did over there.

The point of the class is to talk about Suns and Sun house placements ONLY. (I feel like I have every limb but like, one big toe tied behind my back not to go advanced on this. We have a lot of advanced folk taking the class because Elsa is cool, but we're getting told not to go into much beyond that.) One of the points made somewhere was that where your sun is is where you are supposed to SHINE and if you don't, it's a big ol' problem.

So, here was my total whining about it:

I have a question regarding this quote about not letting your Sun shine = massive dysfunction: what about the 7th? The entire problem is that I don't have control over whether or not I get a partner and the sun gets to shine. Yeah, I could and should force myself to online date (though at this point I'd rather pine alone or shoot myself than do it, I feel sick to my stomach every time I look at the ads, they're all terrible!) because I have no other options for meeting people at this age short of lightning striking. But even if I meet someone and there's mutual liking, I can't control how long someone wants to stay with me and I don't have any power over that. All my power is gone because someone else has to hand it to me.

I hate being astrologically codependent. I hate it SO much. 

See, it's totally frustrating. I have to have someone else's wind beneath my wings before I can fly? WTF? I can't make my own wind? I have to sit on the ground for years waiting for someone to come along and decide that they wanna inflate me? Grrrrr. That is just SO disempowering. It's what pisses me off about that placement, that you are NOT ALLOWED to go it alone and like it or function independently. (Says the Aries South Node.)

Someone asked me about projection issues and here's what I came up with. I'm actually fairly amazed at my insight on this. Not so much that I project onto actual people...

I am pretty much only satisfied with a partner, but on the other hand, DRAMA comes along with partners. They have problems with what I do and they tell me and I get upset and can't ever manage to "fix it" to their satisfaction, I have problems with what they do and don't tell them because I can't bear for the relationship to end, eventually they get sick of me and dump me... Partnership really isn't a cure-all or something that "fixes" me, but I think when you have personal planets on the descendant, you're going to be inclined to think that this will be the cure-all even when your rational mind knows better. I think that's my projection, that I can't be happy alone and it's better to be with a loser than to be alone, even though my rational mind learned that isn't true the hard way :P My mom has moon in 7th and I got raised this way as well.

So as far as I'm concerned, the projection thing kind of happens even without an actual person to project onto. Now, you might have to tie my Sun conjunct Chiron into it, i.e. Chiron is where you are broken and I just feel broken in general, and maybe those without it don't feel that way. But on some level, EVEN THOUGH I MENTALLY KNOW BETTER BY NOW, and learned that the hard way, my hormones/limbic brain/id/what have you is darned convinced that "get a man and it fixes everything." (Michael Lutin seems to think this if you read SunShines, which makes me wonder what the hell his node placement is. He very specifically says that your personal issues of self-hatred go away if you have some other person around to interrupt the self-hate chanting you do when alone.) And in real life practice, no it doesn't. Hell, that causes even more problems!

Anyway, the answer to the question of "is my Sun shiny" is nope, no it is not.

Is there a difference? I wonder... these are apparently family traits. More on this later.

Moon:

"Do you look to your partner to mother you? Does your love life fluctuate as often as the ebb and flow of the tides? Have you chosen ice cream over marriage? If any of these symptoms apply to you, you're a candidate for Moon in the Seventh House disorder. Consult a professional immediately!

If you're born with the Moon in your Seventh House, you will try to get your lunar needs met within a partnership. There can be a lot of caretaking in a marriage or with clients or a business partner. You may seek a maternal partner or take on that role yourself. Codependency is possible, as you may put the other's needs above your own. (Your Moon sign will dictate how you nurture.)"

Sun:

"The conundrum of having a Seventh House Sun is that you don't know who you're meeting in that house: yourself, or a partner? If you have your Sun at the dusk portion of your chart, you need to express yourself in the realm of partnership. You are necessarily "tied up" with others, and are not nearly as independent as someone with, say, a First House Sun. It feels as if you need to be in a relationship to feel fulfilled."

• Well, that's a kick in the teeth.
• Likewise:

I entered this life to establish a balance of male/female projections. As long as I can remember, I was fascinated by the idea of finding everlasting love with a partner who would respect me, and my contribution.  As far as I knew, it was the means to happiness if I truly met my other half. My partner and I took on our pre-ordained male/female roles. He was decisive; I was submissive. I devoted my self and my life to my other half. Happiness eluded us and we found ourselves opposing each other on everything.